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Post by Kathy ~ on Jul 5, 2006 21:16:13 GMT -5
Barbaro's owners happy to hear their horse's breaks are healingRoy Jackson, who with his wife Gretchen owns Kentucky Derby winner Barbaro, said yesterday he was relieved to hear Monday -- after Barbaro's cast change and the implanting of three additional screws -- that Barbaro's joints are fusing and the breaks healing. "But it all takes time," Jackson said. "I'm hopeful that he will come through everything all right, but we've been through this before [with other horses] and we know things can go wrong in 24 hours. All we can really do is wait and see." Yesterday, Barbaro was feeling good, said Dr. Corinne Sweeney, executive director of the George D. Widener Hospital for Large Animals at the University of Pennsylvania's New Bolton Center in Kennett Square, Pa., where Barbaro is recovering in the intensive care unit from the multiple fractures in his right, rear leg during the Preakness.
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Post by Kathy ~ on Jul 8, 2006 19:12:03 GMT -5
This is what we ( Horse Racing Fans) have been afraid to hear: Kentucky Derby Winner Barbaro Fighting Hoof Infection, Fever July 8 (Bloomberg) -- Kentucky Derby Winner Barbaro, whose racing career was ended by a misstep that shattered the three- year-old colt's ankle, is being treated for an abscess in his uninjured left hind hoof and a fever, the colt's veterinarian said.
The horse's ankle was put back together with screws during surgery on May 21 and a cast covered his right hind leg from his hoof to the hock as the ankle bones fuse. The cast was replaced July 3 after Barbaro showed signs of discomfort for several days as well as a slight elevation in his temperature. When the procedure failed to alleviate his distress, a third cast was applied July 5.
``Barbaro was not comfortable with the second cast, so we decided it would be best to replace it sooner rather than later,'' Richardson said yesterday in a statement. ``His appetite is healthy, and we are continuing to monitor him closely for an elevated temperature or other signs of discomfort.''
I had high hopes after the surgery, but this past week it's pretty obvious. I think they are playing it down a bit for now. I hope it's not that bad and he can be treated. Shoot, he was over 50% there... He can do it.. Get Well Barbaro.. Long May You Run ~
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Post by Kathy ~ on Jul 13, 2006 22:35:39 GMT -5
Surgeon: Barbaro's 'facing tough odds' Published July 13, 2006
The surgeon treating injured Kentucky Derby winner Barbaro said on Wednesday that the horse was resting comfortably at the University of Pennsylvania's New Bolton Center, but he is in guarded condition, "facing tough odds."
"Our entire staff is determined to do all they can for this magnificent horse," Dean Richardson, chief of surgery at New Bolton, said in a statement.
I don't want him to be in pain, but I can't face losing him.. and it seem inevitable..
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Post by Kathy ~ on Jul 16, 2006 12:26:21 GMT -5
Barbaro is to be admiredToday's thoroughbreds and knuckleheads edition of The Sporting Muse: If horse racing had the same laws and morals as Hollywood, there wouldn't be any horse racing, because the industry could never get away with the phrase "no animals were hurt in the making" of this competition. It's a fact of life that thoroughbreds are fragile creatures and the nature of horse racing often taxes their health. Horses are born to run, but they've never been known to stage races on their own. That's one reason why so many sports fans are anxious about the condition of Kentucky Derby winner Barbaro, whose health took an ominous turn this week. True fans who respect the ability of thoroughbreds and have no problem calling them athletes often feel more for the animal than they would a human. The outpouring of shock, tears and heartache over the 1975 death of the filly Ruffian, who died in a match race against Foolish Pleasure, still resonates. People who were in attendance said the hush that hit the crowd was one of eeriest silences they've ever heard. Barbaro's recovery would seem to be an important factor in horse racing's future. It needs heroes, even those who can no longer compete, and Barbaro is one of the biggest of his generation. Meanwhile, the soccer world continues to debate the surreal end to the World Cup, which has reached the point where FIFA, the sport's governing body, wants to interview Marco Materazzi, the Italian who was on the receiving end of Zinedine Zidane's head-butt. Whatever Materazzi said, it seems a bit overzealous to call him in for a meeting because he talked enough smack to enrage Zizou. If smack was a traditional foul in basketball and football, there would never be enough players to finish the game. Bruce Arena did a good job during his eight-year run as U.S. National team coach, despite this year's World Cup pratfall. He's the same coach who got them to the quarterfinals in 2002, and had the misfortune this time to coach a team in transition age-wise. Arena went 71-30-29 as head coach. The U.S. will make a serious run at hiring German coach Juergen Klinsmann, who resigned last week after the cup and lives in Huntington Beach. The problem is that there's no obvious second choice tbc: presstelegram.com/sports/ci_4055402
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Post by Antonio on Jul 20, 2006 7:04:39 GMT -5
Kathy do you ride horses? Just curious. My older daughter loves horses and is a good rider, but she doesn't use to watch horse racing.
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Post by Kathy ~ on Jul 20, 2006 10:38:43 GMT -5
Kathy do you ride horses? Just curious. My older daughter loves horses and is a good rider, but she doesn't use to watch horse racing. no antonio, i did try to ride a couple time.. and i was nervous, the horse can feel that.. and bolted.. i got my love for horses and racing watching "secretariat" .. winning the triple crown.. when i saw him down the stretch 30 plus lengths.. i was won over. my dad would take me to the track on vacation days... & we would go down to the paddock and.. these are magnificent animals to wathc.. plus, the thrill of the race.. for those 2 minutes.. my heart is pounding, i'm yelling, flinging the racing form.. ah, i love it.. how long has your daughter been riding.. is she following barbaro? right now, he has captured the hearts of horse lovers, not just racing fans...
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Post by Antonio on Jul 20, 2006 12:09:17 GMT -5
My daughter Sara, now 16, has been regularly riding since she was 10, but I don't think she has heard anything about this horse.
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Post by Kathy ~ on Jul 21, 2006 11:21:16 GMT -5
ANTONIO, THAT'S LOVELY TO HEAR.. YOUR DAUGHTER STARTED VERY YOUNG & I'M SURE SHE'S GREAT WITH HORSES. MUCH CREDIT TO HER, IT'S NOT FOR EVERYONE. THE "BARBARO" HAS CAPTURED THE HEARTS .. INTERNATIONALLY, BUT MOSTLY HERE IN THE STATES.. IF SHE IS LOOKING FOR INFO ON VET CARE OR WANT TO KNOW HOW A THOUROUGBRED IS TRAINED VS. STABLE HORSES-- THERE'S DAILY UPDATES ON BARBARO.. THE "BREEDER'S CUP" IS MORE INTERNATIONAL, BUT MAYBE NOT SO MUCH IN ITALY .. I ENJOY LOOKING UP THE SIRES AND BLOODLINES, THE MORNING WORKOUTS.. THE BEST LINK TO ANY HORSE INFO MIGHT BE : WWW.NTRA.COMGIVE YOUR DAUGHTER A HUG TODAY
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Post by Antonio on Jul 22, 2006 1:26:06 GMT -5
Thank you, Kathy, I will forward her these informations and your hug. She left on an horse trekking vacation in the Abruzzi National Park just yesterday.
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Post by Kathy ~ on Jul 25, 2006 14:22:51 GMT -5
Thank you, Kathy, I will forward her these informations and your hug. She left on an horse trekking vacation in the Abruzzi National Park just yesterday. ANTONIO !! THAT SOUNDS BEAUTIFUL.. ACTUALLY, I NEVER HEARD OF IT HERE IN THE STATES !! I SHOULDN'T REALLY SAY THAT BEING I LIVE IN "THE BIG CITY".. I KNOW VERY FEW HORSE LOVERS ..ONLY ONLINE. I THINK SHE WILL SEE BARBARO AND FALL IN LOVE AS I DID.. LET ME KNOW HOW HER VACTION WENT... IT SOUNDS LIKE BEING "ONE WITH NATURE"
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Post by Kathy ~ on Aug 11, 2006 13:20:38 GMT -5
Arlington Million Day Features Three Grade I Stakes & Over $1.5 Million In Guarantees! This Saturday, Arlington Park hosts the premier day in turf racing, the International Festival of Racing, featuring Arlington Million XXIV (G1) plus the Beverly D. (G1) and Secretariat Stakes (G1). www.arlingtonpark.com/Winners: The Tin Man Richard Mandella Victor Espinoza 10-1 Gorella (FR) Patrick Biancone Julien Leparoux 5-2 Showing Up Barclay Tagg Cornelio Velasquez 7-5
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Post by westendkid on Aug 21, 2006 4:34:17 GMT -5
Half of my family breeds thoroughbreds. Horse Racing is in my blood. I was lucky enough to see Secretariat's phenomenal stretch run in the Belmont. For my money, one of the wonders of the world. Also saw Affirmed & Alydar's Belmont run. These were amazing horses. My first job was as a 12-year-old excercise rider. I loved the work, hated the hours and the pay wasn't much. Yet being on the back of a thoroughbred at sunrise is truly a wonderous experience. Secretariat's 31 lengths winning stretch run at the Belmont
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Post by Kathy ~ on Aug 21, 2006 13:35:23 GMT -5
HI THERE,
GLAD TO MEET ANOTHER RACING FAN. YOU SAW SECRETARIAT... "BIG RED" !! WOW, I HAVE HIS POSTERS PLASTERED ON MY WALLS..
AND THE RIVALRY BETWEEN AFFIRMED AND ALYDAR.. I LOVE THE TWO HORSE RACE. HAVEN'T SEEN THAT SINCE 78 AND STILL COMPARED TO MAN O WAR & SEABUISIQUIT IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN..
GREAT PIC OF "BIG RED".. 31 IN 2:24
HAD TO BE COOL BEING UP AND ON THE TRACK AT THE CRACK OF DAWN. I'M JUST AN ONLINE PLAYER THESE DAYS. THE FANTASY CHALLENGES ETC..
I FOLLOWED THE ARLINGTON MILLION .. AND LOOKS LIKE A GOOD PREP FORTHE BREEDER'S CUP..
ARE YOU STILL IN THE BUSINESS? DANG, HAD TO WORTH THE MEMORIES IF NOT THE MONEY !!
ANY THOUGHTS ON THIS YEAR'S MEET AT ARLINGTON? WAS IT UP TO 20 HORSES BREAKING DOWN.. AND NO EXPLANATIONS.. THE IRA IS ON THERE THIRD CONSULTANT..
HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING SINCE. JUST STARTING TO HANDICAP MY BREEDER'S CUP STABLE... IN FANTASY LAND..
THANKS AGAIN ... GLAD TO HAVE YA HERE..
KATHY ~
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Post by westendkid on Aug 21, 2006 16:06:28 GMT -5
Hi KATHYYes, I was lucky enough to see Big Red make history. Wow what a day that was. He was amazing and so beautiful. I, too, have a beautiful picture of him on my wall. Later I became a big fan of Affirmed and Steve Cauthen. That boy made me some serious money. I don't follow the ponies much anymore. I see you're from Arlington. I used to go to a lot of races there. Lovely track. Good luck with your handicapping and have fun at the track. Nice to meet you. W.E. Kid
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Post by Kathy ~ on Aug 21, 2006 16:24:58 GMT -5
THANKS "KID"..
WITH MY BOYS, JERRY AND GARY RETIRED..I'M HAVING A HARD TIME GETTING USED TO THE NEW YOUNG JOCKEYS.. PAT DAY, YOU COULD TAKE TO THE BANK TOO
YEP, STEVIE .. WAS 18..& WHERE IS HE NOW.
THANKS AGAIN FOR SHARING YOUR MEMORIES.. I ONLY HAVE DVD AND SENTIMENTAL MEMORIES.. THOSE ARE THE BEST !!
LONG MAY YOU RUN ~ KATHY
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Post by westendkid on Aug 22, 2006 7:53:40 GMT -5
Hi KATHY
Yes these new jockeys are hard to handicap. Pat Day was money in the bank as was Angel Cordero even if the race was fixed.
Do you think we'll ever have another Triple Crown winner? I have my doubts. Another old horse who made me a tidy sum was Forego. Being a gelding he raced forever and had the Derby been a couple of furlongs longer, he probably would have beaten Old Red. He was coming on like the big freight train that he was. Forego was another horse that was a pleasure to watch run...always coming up from the back of the pack to snatch a victory with an incredible stretch run.
It great to meet up with another racing enthusiast. Don't meet too many these days and I don't feel like talking horses with my relatives. No fun there.
Good Luck W.E. Kid
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Post by Kathy ~ on Aug 27, 2006 22:35:47 GMT -5
Saint Liam euthanized because of leg fracture
Saint Liam, the 2005 Horse of the Year, was euthanized on Tuesday afternoon after fracturing his left hind leg while being led to his paddock at Lane's End in Versailles, Kentucky.
The six-year-old Saint Ballado horse out of Quiet Dance, by Quiet American, was standing his first season for an advertised fee of $50,000 as the property of a syndicate. He covered 115 mares who are now in foal.
RIP~ Long May You Run....
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Post by Kathy ~ on Aug 29, 2006 9:23:02 GMT -5
Hi KATHY
Yes these new jockeys are hard to handicap. Pat Day was money in the bank as was Angel Cordero even if the race was fixed.
Do you think we'll ever have another Triple Crown winner? I have my doubts. Another old horse who made me a tidy sum was Forego. Being a gelding he raced forever and had the Derby been a couple of furlongs longer, he probably would have beaten Old Red. He was coming on like the big freight train that he was. Forego was another horse that was a pleasure to watch run...always coming up from the back of the pack to snatch a victory with an incredible stretch run.
It great to meet up with another racing enthusiast. Don't meet too many these days and I don't feel like talking horses with my relatives. No fun there.
Good Luck W.E. Kid I HAD HEARD OF THE HORSE.. BUT I HONESTLY DID NOT REMEBER. I CHECKED OUT HIS BIO, AND HE WAS A MACHINE. I THINK DURING HIS TIME IN THE SPOTLIGHT, SECRETARIAT WAS HOGGING ALL THE CAMERAS!! I CAN'T BELIEVE THE AMOUNT OF WEIGHT THEY PUT ON HIM. I PRINTED HIS BIO AND SADLY, HE WAS OVERSHADOWED BY BIG RED. WHY WAS IT ONLY IN THE 70'S? ************************************ When Forego was born in 1970 he was big and awkward. This made him slow to develop, and the other horses his age went on to the racetrack while his training was delayed for nearly a year. He would eventually grow to be a towering 17.1 hands tall. Forego did not make his first start until he was three years old. He ran in some stakes races in Florida but didn't have much success. Few people had heard of Forego when he ran a surprising fourth in the 1973 Kentucky Derby, which was won by the great Secretariat. Forego continued to mature and develop through the summer. In late fall, he won his first stakes race when he captured the Roamer Handicap in New York. He followed it up with another victory in the Discovery Handicap. His winning streak continued into the new year, when he turned four years old. In many stakes races, the best horses are "handicapped" by being required to carry more weight than the other horses in the race, so that the other horses have a fair chance to win. Forego won four consecutive stakes races in Florida and New York, carrying higher weight in each race. Finally, in May, his streak came to an end when he was second in the Metropolitan Mile while carrying a staggering 134 pounds. Forego went on to win and place in more stakes, while almost always carrying top weight, and ended the year of 1974 with eight wins in 13 races, and earnings of over a half million dollars, a lot of money for those days. He won Eclipse Awards for Champion Older Male, Champion Sprinter, and the most prestigious award in all of racing, Horse of the Year. One race that Forego ran third in that year was the Marlboro Cup Invitational, which only invited the very best horses to compete. In 1975, Forego again ran in the Marlboro Cup, after having another successful year and winning many stakes in Florida and New York, always having to carry top weight. In the 1975 Marlboro Cup, he had to carry 10 pounds more than the top three-year-old, Wajima. Forego battled gamely through the stretch, but the younger colt beat him by a head. Two weeks later, with both carrying equal weight, Forego won the Woodward Stakes by two lengths while Wajima was second. Once again, Forego was Horse of the Year and Champion Older Male. "Lexington, KY (August 27, 1997) – Thoroughbred great FOREGO died today, August 27, 1997 at the Kentucky Horse Park where he had been retired after an extraordinary racing career. The 27 year old gelding was humanely put down as the result of a fractured long pastern bone which occurred while turned out in his paddock at the Park’s Hall of Champions. He has been buried near his paddock." RIP. Long May You Run ~
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Post by westendkid on Aug 29, 2006 13:26:17 GMT -5
Thanks, Kathy
Posting Forego's bio was very cool of you. I loved to watch that big ol' freight train run. He was something else.
West End Kid
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Post by Kathy ~ on Sept 14, 2006 20:35:20 GMT -5
Final NTRA Three-Year-Old Poll 06/12/06 HORSE A-S STS-1-2-3 PTS PVS PROBABLE NEXT START 1. Bernardini (8) 3-C 4-4-0-0 167 1 Undecided 2. Barbaro (10) 3-C 5-4-0-0 137 4 Retired 3. Jazil 3-C 5-1-2-0 135 6 Undecided 4. Bluegrass Cat 3-C 5-1-3-0 127 2 Undecided 5. Sweetnorthernsaint 3-G 6-3-1-1 107 3 Undecided 6. Steppenwolfer 3-C 7-2-2-2 67 5 7/15 Virginia Derby 7. Sunriver 3-C 6-2-1-2 49 9 Undecided 8. Songster 3-C 5-3-2-0 43 - 8/26 King's Bishop S. 9. Brother Derek 3-C 5-3-0-0 40 8 Undecided 10. Lawyer Ron 3-C 5-4-0-0 28 7 Undecided A_S: Age-Sex, Sex: C-colt, G-gelding, F-filly.
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Post by Kathy ~ on Sept 20, 2006 16:23:21 GMT -5
Lost in the Fog -A bay colt, he was foaled in 2002. Sired by Lost Soldier (a son of Danzig). His dam was Cloud Break (an unraced Dr. Carter mare). -His Florida breeder, Susan Seper, says he was named the day she literally lost him in the fog. -Won 11 of 14 career starts and earned $978,099 for owner Harry J. Aleo, an 85-year-old San Francisco real estate magnate who bought him for $140,000 in a private sale. Won the Eclipse Award for Outstanding Sprint Horse of 2005. -Diagnosed with three inoperable cancerous tumors in August 2006. Chemotherapy began Sept.7. If the point was reached that it was no longer possible to provide Lost in the Fog with an acceptable level of comfort and quality of life while continuing chemotherapy aimed at inducing remission of the tumors, humane euthanasia would be the most appropriate course of action. That point was reached on Sunday afternoon. Lost in the Fog showed the same incredible toughness and determination in his battle with cancer that he showed during his illustrious racing career. He was a wonderful patient and true gentleman to the end, and will be greatly missed by his many fans around the world, including those who cared for him during his final weeks. -Will be cremated. His ashes will be interred at the Florida farm where he spent his early life. R. I. P. "LONG MAY YOU RUN" ~
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Post by Kathy ~ on Dec 23, 2006 22:38:29 GMT -5
HORSE OF THE YEAR THE VOTES ARE BEING COUNTED AND "BARBARO" IS GOING IN AS THE SENTIMENTAL FAVORITE. SOME ARGUE HIS SHORT CAREER DUE TO THE PREAKNESS INJURY IS BIASED. INVASOR IS THE ONE TO CATCH WITH BERNARDINI FALLEN OFF THE BEAT. WINNERS WILL BE ANNOUNCE AT THE ECLIPE AWARDS IN JANUARY.. BARBARO UPDATE: HIS CAST IS OFF !! POLYTRACK .. ANYONE ?
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Post by Kathy ~ on Jan 10, 2007 22:48:21 GMT -5
Barbaro has suffered a significant setback in his recovery from laminitis, with damaged tissue removed from the Kentucky Derby winner's left hind hoof. Barbaro was being treated aggressively for his discomfort and is in stable condition, according to a statement released Wednesday morning by the University of Pennsylvania's New Bolton Center. The tissue was removed Tuesday night. "Things were marching along pretty smoothly until this," Barbaro's co-owner Gretchen Jackson said. "We've been there before with him. He's a horse that wants to live." The setback comes one week after a new cast was placed on Barbaro's laminitis-stricken left hind foot to help realign a bone. Love you Barbaro... Long May You Run ~ Long May You Live ~
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Post by Kathy ~ on Jan 23, 2007 12:32:13 GMT -5
All the adoration for Barbaro at the Eclipse Awards couldn't prevent two of his rivals from winning thoroughbred racing's biggest honors.
Invasor overwhelmingly defeated the injured Kentucky Derby winner for Horse of the Year, and Barbaro also lost 3-year-old male honors to Bernardini in another landslide Monday night.
Breeders' Cup Classic winner Invasor received 84 percent of the 271 votes cast for Horse of the Year. Barbaro, whose career-ending leg injury in the Preakness captured America's heart, was second with 21. Preakness winner Bernardini was third with 16.
"He was obviously a great horse and it was sad what happened, but it's nice to still win," said Kiaran McLaughlin, who trains Invasor.
Invasor will continue racing this year, with his debut set for Feb. 3 in the Donn Handicap at Gulfstream Park. He's also being pointed toward the $6 million Dubai World Cup on March 31.
Invasor, bred in Argentina, also won for older male.
"He did a lot for racing and we had a great year," McLaughlin said. "It's great that Sheik Hamdan (al-Maktoum) is keeping him in training and had the nerve to go buy a horse from Uruguay."
Bernardini got 210 first-place votes (77.5 percent) for 3-year-old male, with Barbaro earning 56 (20.7 percent).
In all, Barbaro and his human connections were nominated in six Eclipse categories, and won two. Barbaro's owners, Roy and Gretchen Jackson, who operate Lael Stables, tied with Sheik Mohammed's Darley farm for owner of the year.
"I'm totally out of words that could possibly express the feelings in my heart," Gretchen Jackson said. "It's been such a treat to be an owner."
Edgar Prado, whose quick thinking in the Preakness was credited with saving Barbaro's life, won jockey of the year.
Prado guided Barbaro to a 6 1/2 -length victory in the Kentucky Derby. He won 248 races and more than $19 million, a career best, last year. Prado was in Peru with his family on the first anniversary of his mother's death.
The Jacksons and the University of Pennsylvania/New Bolton Center shared the Special Eclipse Award for individual achievements or contributions to thoroughbred racing.
"This award is not really for us, but it's for Barbaro," Roy Jackson said. "When we look at this journey, we can't see anything really negative. It's really been very, very positive.
"I would like to thank everybody who has offered their good wishes to us and Barbaro," he said.
Breeders' Cup Juvenile winner Street Sense won the 2-year-old male award and will be pointed toward the Kentucky Derby. Dreaming of Anna was honored as the top 2-year-old female.
Fleet Indian won older female honors.
Wait a While won for 3-year-old female; Thor's Echo was the top sprinter; Miesque's Approval was male turf horse; and Britain-bred Ouija Board won female turf horse.
Todd Pletcher and Julien Leparoux were among the human winners during the 36th annual ceremony at the Regent Beverly Wilshire hotel.
East Coast-based Pletcher won his third straight Eclipse as trainer of the year. His stable, which includes Fleet Indian and Wait a While, earned a record $27.4 million last year.
"It's great horses that make a good trainer and I've been very fortunate and blessed," Pletcher told the crowd.
Pletcher's 45-day suspension for using an anesthetic on one of his horses too close to a race more than two years ago ends Saturday.
"I'm anxious (to return), but it's probably the first vacation I've had in 15 years, so it's not all bad," he said later.
Leparoux won for apprentice jockey after leading North American riders with 403 victories last year, when the 23-year-old from France earned multiple riding titles in Kentucky.
McDynamo repeated as steeplechase horse of the year. Adena Springs, operated by Frank Stronach, won its third consecutive Eclipse as breeder of the year.
A total of 271 voters from the Daily Racing Form, the National Turf Writers Association and National Thoroughbred Racing Association/Equibase cast ballots.
In the media Eclipse Awards, Dick Jerardi of the Philadelphia Daily News won in news-commentary for a series on Barbaro; Mike Jensen of the Philadelphia Inquirer won in feature-enterprise writing for a story on Barbaro's chief surgeon, Dr. Dean Richardson; and Matt Goins of the Lexington (Ky.) Herald-Leader won the photography category.
NBC Sports won the live racing national television category for its coverage of the Preakness Stakes; HRTV and Pony Highway Productions won for national television feature; WLKY-TV in Louisville, Ky., won for local television; and WBAL radio in Baltimore won for audio and multimedia Internet.
The Eclipse Award of Merit was given to John Nerud, a 93-year-old Hall of Fame trainer who campaigned 1967 Horse of the Year Dr. Fager.
The Eclipse Awards are named after the 18th century horse Eclipse, who was undefeated in 18 career starts and sired winners of more than 300 races, including three Epsom Derbies.
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Post by boots on Jan 28, 2007 20:07:41 GMT -5
SHOULD BE BANNED ....... CRUELTY TO DUMB ANIMALS ..... I mean we would allow it to Britney Spears, who is far less intelligent, but might enjoy being ridden, so why to a Horse?
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