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Post by brendywendy on Mar 25, 2007 19:54:21 GMT -5
;DNow, though, it is 2007 and McCain wants to be president again. To that end, he has embraced -- literally -- the president on whose behalf his wife and daughter were publicly slandered. He has sought the support of those Christian Right leaders he'd memorably denounced seven years earlier. He has hired the admen who created the Swift Boat spots against John Kerry, which in 2004 he called "dishonest and dishonorable." He has gone back on so much of his vaunted "Straight Talk" that McCain has become a parody of himself. And of course, there is the war. McCain is the new policy's biggest supporter, even bigger than Lieberman is, which is saying something. How much of that, one wonders, was political calculation?
"I don't know if he's even being honest about it," says Tom Hagel. "He would kiss anybody's ass and say anything to whatever group if he figures it'll help him become president. He has given himself up to his ambition, and I wanted to vomit knowing what the Bush people did to him in South Carolina and watching him in 2004."
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Post by erik on Mar 27, 2007 13:03:21 GMT -5
McCain is a waste of time for me. I wouldn't vote for him for city tax collector, let alone President! He is a Bush lackey and a far-right wing a**-kisser!
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Post by bluesron on Mar 27, 2007 15:26:23 GMT -5
McCain is a waste of time for me. I wouldn't vote for him for city tax collector, let alone President! He is a Bush lackey and a far-right wing a**-kisser! As much as John McCain disappoints me sometimes, considering where he spent most of the Vietnam war, as opposed to the current Monkey in Chief or alot of his other detractors, I think he's more than earned his right to be wrong. I may not approve of some of his politics, but to me he's still a genuine hero.
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Post by Andrew on Mar 30, 2007 22:07:22 GMT -5
Let me just state for the record that if I had been around during the Vietnam war, I would have done anything I could to stay out of it. I would have run to Canada if necessary.
What a candidate did or didn't do during that horrible war is essentially none of my business, unless they are being a hypocrite, like Bush, who avoided Vietnam and lived to create a second one.
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Post by erik on Mar 31, 2007 11:22:02 GMT -5
It was JFK who said that perhaps the biggest responsibility any president will ever have in office is to do everything possible to keep the nation from having to go to war. I really think we have had this tendency since JFK's time, with the exceptions of Ford, Carter, and Clinton, to put men into office who are anxious to get wars going for their own personal and financial gain, and use code words like "patriotism", "freedom", "democracy", and, the grand-daddy of them all, "National Security" (this last one, to me, is merely a nice way of saying "fascism").
Eight or ten years ago, I might have said that McCain would have made a great GOP president. But now, since he's going to shill for a war-mogering little dictator like Bush, he'll never get my support, regardless of his Vietnam war service.
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Post by robertaxel on Mar 31, 2007 12:50:01 GMT -5
As much as I disagreed with all of his policies, I do feel that Ronald Reagan did keep us out of a fighting war (although his policies did lead to an economic war on those less fortunate). He knew enough to pull out of Lebanon when the situation got ugly and also knew enough to keep out of Afghanistan..
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Post by Andrew on Apr 1, 2007 8:50:28 GMT -5
As much as I disagreed with all of his policies, I do feel that Ronald Reagan did keep us out of a fighting war (although his policies did lead to an economic war on those less fortunate). He knew enough to pull out of Lebanon when the situation got ugly and also knew enough to keep out of Afghanistan.. Except he did attack other countries with impunity. He furthered our imperialistic agenda. Blech. Not to mention his war of faked ignorance on AIDS. As Larry Kramer said, he was a monster. Kramer is usually an extremist, but not in this case in my opinion. I guess Reagan kept us out of war by being a bully.
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Post by ronstadtfanaz on Apr 4, 2007 14:25:45 GMT -5
McCain became a Neocon after he lost the election and compromised himself by giving in on the shameful torture bill among other things. He suffers from tunnel vision when it comes to this insane war. He is a bomber and war hawk. Not what we need in this world.
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