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Post by profblues on Apr 15, 2015 13:28:17 GMT -5
Pay per view prices from $89 - 99.95 for High definition
guess I'll catch it on the internets post fight.
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Post by jhar26 on Apr 15, 2015 13:41:37 GMT -5
Pay per view prices from $89 - 99.95 for High definition guess I'll catch it on the internets post fight. There will be a zillion streams on the internet. Dodgy quality for sure, but at least we'll be able to make out between all the buffering what's going on. |
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Post by jhar26 on Apr 24, 2015 4:18:24 GMT -5
Floyd Mayweather Jr.: I'm better than Muhammad Alisports.yahoo.com/news/floyd-mayweather-jr-im-better-muhammad-ali-233516993--box.html;_ylt=AwrC0CYJBjpV9FoAlVDQtDMD;_ylu=X3oDMTByOHZyb21tBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzcg--Really Floyd?  Sure, you are great, but greater than Ali, Duran, Leonard, Pepp, Robinson, Louis, Armstrong and Chavez, to name just a few? I don't think that any of those guys would have ran from their biggest rival for six years until they were sure that he was past his peak. Pac is still a great fighter, but it's not 2009 anymore, which is why Floyd is fighting him now and not five or six years ago. Floyd IS a great fighter, but there are historically at least 15 fighters that I would rank ahead of him - including peak pacquiao. For me Floyd is todays Pernell Withaker - a great defensive fighter and a great counter-puncher. But guys like a Julio Cesar Chavez, peak Roberto Duran and the 2008-2010 version of Pacquiao would have destroyed him imo. What do you think Ron?
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Post by erik on Apr 24, 2015 8:55:31 GMT -5
Any fighter who claims he's better than Ali is as fruity as a nutcake (IMHO) (LOL).
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Post by profblues on Apr 24, 2015 10:26:44 GMT -5
Big ego = Big boast
Ali was the greatest fighter in his prime. Smart fighter. Plus he came back twice to win the World's Heavyweight Championship when everyone counted him out.
Mayweather might be the best currently and I agree Pac-man in his prime was probably pound for pound the best fighter of the two but that guy isn't the one Mayweather is fighting
obviously Mayweather isn't a heavyweight. I'd take Duran, Hagler, Hearns, Julio Cesar Chavez and Oscar De La Hoya over him any day.
pound for pound, Sugar Ray Robinson was the best. Ever.
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Post by jhar26 on Apr 24, 2015 11:18:40 GMT -5
Big ego = Big boast Ali was the greatest fighter in his prime. Smart fighter. Plus he came back twice to win the World's Heavyweight Championship when everyone counted him out. Mayweather might be the best currently and I agree Pac-man in his prime was probably pound for pound the best fighter of the two but that guy isn't the one Mayweather is fighting obviously Mayweather isn't a heavyweight. I'd take Duran, Hagler, Hearns, Julio Cesar Chavez and Oscar De La Hoya over him any day. pound for pound, Sugar Ray Robinson was the best. Ever. I agree. Ali was probably the best heavyweight ever, although I won't put up much of an argument if someone else says that it's Joe Louis. Sugar Ray Robinson was the best ever pound for pound, I agree. Pacquiao is past his prime now, but he's still a very good fighter. Let's hope that he can find that old magic back one more time to kick this guy's ass. Manny is so likable, not only because he's a high action fighter, but also because he's just a genuinely good guy away from the ring. Floyd on the other hand with his "money Mayweather" persona is as shallow as they come. I respect his talent, but otherwise there's not much to like about him imo. Most seem to think that either Floyd will win on points or Manny will win by ko. I'm not so sure about that. If he's as agressive as he usually is Pacquiao might run into one and get knocked out. But if that doesn't happen then Manny actually COULD win on points because he's the agressor and throws more punches. The problem is that Floyd is such a defensive wizard that everyone is less effective and less active against him than against anyone else. Even so, Manny needs to keep up the pressure and force Floyd to fight for three minutes per round imo. Manny CAN box, but I don't think that he can out-box Mayweather. He has to make it a fight and not allow Floyd to make it a boxing match. |
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Post by jhar26 on Apr 26, 2015 15:05:23 GMT -5
Got out of bed in the early hours of the morning to watch the Wladimir Klitschko fight on some crappy stream. Nobody can deny that he's effective, but boy - that guy must be the most boring heavyweight champ in history.
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Post by jhar26 on Apr 29, 2015 3:30:57 GMT -5
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Post by jhar26 on Apr 30, 2015 8:22:53 GMT -5
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Post by profblues on Apr 30, 2015 9:30:36 GMT -5
Mayweather would have slapped her around a little though  |
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Post by jhar26 on Apr 30, 2015 10:09:40 GMT -5
Mayweather would have slapped her around a little though Indeed. I've read somewhere that he was five times accused of violence towards women. When asked why he had been imprisoned a couple of years ago his answer was, "I'm black, I'm cocky and I'm rich." All true, but a bit too convenient an answer I think. Poor multi mega millionaire Floyd taking on the role of the victim. He's in such a great position to make a positive contribution for his people, just like Manny tries to do for his people. But I guess it's just not in him. I wouldn't be at all surprised if despite the obscene amounts of money he's making he would alà Mike Tyson still end up broke at some point. |
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Post by jhar26 on May 2, 2015 3:53:02 GMT -5
I've found a channell that will broadcast the fight, Ron. I had to pay 25 euros to be able to receive it though. But that's still a better deal than having to pay 90 dollars for PPV.
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Post by profblues on May 2, 2015 10:50:54 GMT -5
word has it according to the contract if Pac-man wins there will be a rematch
if Mayweather wins there is no rematch.
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Post by erik on May 2, 2015 11:10:17 GMT -5
Quote by profblues:
Also, if Mayweather wins, he has reportedly decided to cover Suge Knight's $10 million bail (Knight is in one of L.A. County's less deriable motels, if you you what I mean, on a murder charge).
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Post by jhar26 on May 2, 2015 13:12:43 GMT -5
Quote by profblues: Also, if Mayweather wins, he has reportedly decided to cover Suge Knight's $10 million bail (Knight is in one of L.A. County's less deriable motels, if you you what I mean, on a murder charge). I'm not familiar with the case, but I think it's strange that it would depend on him winning the fight. He'll get his money win or lose. |
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Post by jhar26 on May 3, 2015 5:05:55 GMT -5
Well, it turned out to be a spectacularly unspectacular fight. I pity the people who payed 100 dollars to see this on PPV - let alone those who payed 40.000 dollars (or whatever) for a ringside seat, although the Robert de Niros, Michael Jordans and Steffi Grafs of the world can affort it of course. But when you're in what is called "the fight of the century," you get to split a purse of what will roughly be 350 million, boxing fans have been looking forward to this fight for six years, and even non-boxing fans and casual sports fans are interested in this one I think there's a certain responsibility that comes with that. As it was I doubt that this will even be the fight of the month, let alone the century. Two of the three judges scored it 116-112 for Mayweather, which is what I had on my card as well. Not that it was that easy to score when there's as little action as there was here. I had to give the nod to Mayweather for most of the rounds based on his ability to make Pacquiao miss, which must tell you something. Perhaps if Manny had worn a skirt and a blonde wig, we'd have seen a far more attack-minded Mayweather.  For almost the entire fight Floyd was retreating with Manny following him around the ring. Manny was as expected the "agressor" although he didn't really rush in like the Pacquiao of old would have done.. Since the ko loss to Marquez he's clearly afraid to run into another big one. But despite Manny's very fast hands he found it hard to land clean shots on Mayweather even when he was against the ropes. The kindest thing that I can say about Mayweather is that he confirmed that he's a defensive wizard. But let's call a spade a spade - he fought a cowardly fight for which he will be rewarded with 200 milion dollars. Not a bad way to make a living I suppose. |
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Post by profblues on May 3, 2015 8:29:32 GMT -5
too many casual fight fans and those who follow UFC seem to be the loudest about it being a terrible fight. If they want to see a slugfest, they should stick to UFC, Rocky movies or their local dive bar on a Saturday night.
(that IS NOT a shot at you, since you know what you are talking about when it comes to the fight game and you have the advantage over me since you saw the fight and I haven't yet)
Boxing is called the "sweet science" for a reason. Fighting "smart" isn't always fun to watch, but it works.
I am disappointed in the results, but I understand that sometimes fights work out this way, especially in the lighter classes.
Too bad this turned out the way it did, five years ago, people would have got their money's worth.
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Post by jhar26 on May 3, 2015 8:53:45 GMT -5
too many casual fight fans and those who follow UFC seem to be the loudest about it being a terrible fight. If they want to see a slugfest, they should stick to UFC, Rocky movies or their local dive bar on a Saturday night. (that IS NOT a shot at you, since you know what you are talking about when it comes to the fight game and you have the advantage over me since you saw the fight and I haven't yet) Boxing is called the "sweet science" for a reason. Fighting "smart" isn't always fun to watch, but it works. I am disappointed in the results, but I understand that sometimes fights work out this way, especially in the lighter classes. Too bad this turned out the way it did, five years ago, people would have got their money's worth. Well, Floyd did what he had to do to win, so congrats to him for that. He landed some good countershots and Many landed a few good shots as well but most shots from both guys were blocked or avoided or didn't land cleanly. In short, both were less efective than they usually are. But Floyd won the fight on ring generalship. I hate UFC personally. And here it is. Be quick to watch though. I don't think they will leave it on there for very long. |
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Post by erik on May 3, 2015 11:37:26 GMT -5
But let's be honest: When was the last time a fight of this kind ever lived up to the hype? Perhaps when it involved Sugar Ray Leonard, or even (God help us!) Mike Tyson, and certainly Ali. But that's pretty much it, and that was decades ago.
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Post by jhar26 on May 3, 2015 12:01:43 GMT -5
But let's be honest: When was the last time a fight of this kind ever lived up to the hype? Perhaps when it involved Sugar Ray Leonard, or even (God help us!) Mike Tyson, and certainly Ali. But that's pretty much it, and that was decades ago. There have been many fights from (especially) Pacquiao and even Mayweather that were more exciting than this one. It just came five years too late. And Mayweather is very crafty. He's a master at staying out of trouble and making great fighters look ordinary. That always gets him the right result, but it doesn't always produce the most exciting fights in terms of spectacle. But that's not his problem of course. It's all about getting the win and until someone solves the problems that he poses that's how it will continue to be. |
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Post by erik on May 3, 2015 12:07:45 GMT -5
It probably would have been better if Don King had masterminded the hype. But on the other hand, this is a man who, if not all by himself then he was certainly an abettor, basically bastardized the sport (IMHO).
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Post by jhar26 on May 3, 2015 12:22:47 GMT -5
It probably would have been better if Don King had masterminded the hype. But on the other hand, this is a man who, if not all by himself then he was certainly an abettor, basically bastardized the sport (IMHO). That mobster with his "only in America" nonsense should be in jail for all the money he robbed from his fighters. Say about Michael Jackson what you will, but MJ had figured him out after one meeting. He was vehemently opposed to King getting involved with the Jacksons' Victory tour, but he was outvoted by the others. After a few weeks they had to admit that MJ had been right all along though. If King had been involved with the promotion of this fight plenty of money would have ended up in his pocket instead of that of Mayweather or Pacquiao. He was involved big time with the alphabet nonsense that has corrupted the sport as well (WBC, WBA, IBF, WBO, IBO, etc...). |
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Post by erik on May 3, 2015 12:32:11 GMT -5
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Yes, anyone who ever got Don King involved with anything should have been put away in an asylum, because that's tantamount to hiring a fox as a security guard for a henhouse (IMHO).
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Sure, you are great, but greater than Ali, Duran, Leonard, Pepp, Robinson, Louis, Armstrong and Chavez, to name just a few? I don't think that any of those guys would have ran from their biggest rival for six years until they were sure that he was past his peak. Pac is still a great fighter, but it's not 2009 anymore, which is why Floyd is fighting him now and not five or six years ago. Floyd IS a great fighter, but there are historically at least 15 fighters that I would rank ahead of him - including peak pacquiao. For me Floyd is todays Pernell Withaker - a great defensive fighter and a great counter-puncher. But guys like a Julio Cesar Chavez, peak Roberto Duran and the 2008-2010 version of Pacquiao would have destroyed him imo. What do you think Ron?
I'm as you know the "Chrissie-fan" character. 
For almost the entire fight Floyd was retreating with Manny following him around the ring. Manny was as expected the "agressor" although he didn't really rush in like the Pacquiao of old would have done.. Since the ko loss to Marquez he's clearly afraid to run into another big one. But despite Manny's very fast hands he found it hard to land clean shots on Mayweather even when he was against the ropes. The kindest thing that I can say about Mayweather is that he confirmed that he's a defensive wizard. But let's call a spade a spade - he fought a cowardly fight for which he will be rewarded with 200 milion dollars. Not a bad way to make a living I suppose.